Vitamin D Toxicity: What You Need to Know

by Dr. Jonny · 48 comments

Given my very bullish recommendation on vitamin D supplementation, it’s not surprising that more than a few people have asked me if taking too much vitamin D can be toxic.

The answer is yes.

(And please don’t stop reading here.)

The question became a lot more than theoretical when a  case involving the well-known health guru, Gary Null, came to light recently.

Apparently Null became very very sick from taking too much vitamin D.

This case was even weirder because the source of this vitamin D was his own product, “Ultimate Power Meal”.

Ultimate Power Meal was labeled as containing 2,000 IUs of vitamin D, an amount I personally feel is the minimum everyone should supplement with (but that’s just my opinion).

Unfortunately, his supplier and formulators made a bit of a mistake and left off a couple or three zeros.

Ultimate Power Meal contained 2,000,000 —  that’s two million — IUs per serving, not two thousand. That means in a month, he consumed 60 million IUs; just for the record, 10,000 IUs per day (the amount I take) adds up to, let’s see…300,000 IUs a month, about 1/200 the amount Null consumed, and one hundred times the amount someone popping a 2,000 IU pill on a daily basis would consume.

For the record, Null fully recovered within three months after stopping the defective supplement.

Nonetheless, the question remains: can vitamin D be toxic? And the answer is, “of course”, just as water and oxygen and omega-3’s can be toxic, but the number of cases in which that happens are about as common as an appearance by Bill Clinton at a fundraiser for Sarah Palin. (There was a case of death from the overconsumption of water a couple of years ago during an insane shock-jock radio stunt — try to name another. I can’t.)

The Vitamin D council- not exactly a radical, wild-eyed group — did a little digging and found studies going back to the 30’s in which patients were medically treated with two hundred thousand IUs a day (for arthritis). (Ref: Dreyer I, Reed CI. The treatment of arthritis with massive doses of vitamin D. Archives of Physical Therapy. 1935;16:537- 43). While the vast majority of patients improved substantially, about 10% got sick. The doctors in charged simply took the patients off that dose, told them to drink lots of fluids, and ultimately all recovered quite nicely.

Other studies going way back show administration of what we would consider insane amounts (ranging from 150,000 IUs to 300,000 IUs a day, for extended periods). Most showed no ill effects over a short course of treatment (remember, Null took 200,000 IUs daily for over three months.)

Now listen carefully. I am not — repeat not — in a million years recommending any dose like that, or anything even near it.

But I think it’s really important to look beneath the inevitable headlines and sound bites about the Null case (“Vitamin D is toxic!” “Health guru Gary Null made terribly ill by vitamin D”, etc) and realize that we are talking about thousands — repeat thousands — of times the dose I and other health professionals have been recommending.

Vitamin D — like water, oxygen and omega-3’s — can theoretically be a problem but the key word is theoretically. If anyone knows of a single case report published anywhere in the world showing serious problems with a dose of 8-10,000 IUs a day, I’d like to hear about it. And I’ll personally send a “reward” (a set of any four of my books you’d like) to anyone who can find a substantiated report of a problem at the 2,000 IU level (which now considered safe by even the Institute of Medicine).

For the record, a blood test for vitamin D is easily available and highly recommended. It’s called a 25-Hydroxy-vitamin D test, and the majority of people in this country come up low. By even the most outdated and conservative standards, less than 37.5 is generally considered inadequate, but all the experts I know and respect are looking for numbers more in the range of 75-80.

Want to know what’s considered “potentially toxic”? Consistent levels of greater than 500.

Also for the record, symptoms of “toxicity” (as listed by the Dietary Supplement Fact Sheet, National Institutes of Health, Office of Dietary Supplements) are: nausea, vomiting, poor appetite, constipation, weakness, and weight loss. (More seriously it can cause elevated blood levels of calcium, but please remember the doses we’re talking about here!)

Very few foods in nature have a lot of vitamin D and our national sun phobia hasn’t helped the situation.

Considering the incredible benefits of vitamin D — improved bone health, mood, physical performance, lowered risk of dying from all causes, improved immune system function, reduced risk of cancer and MS, even increased likelihood of benefiting from a weight loss program! — I wouldn’t even consider not supplementing on a daily basis.

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Dr. Alitta Kullman August 31, 2010 at 8:42 am

It may have been a coincidence, and most definitely would require a repeat trial, but I recall discontinuing Vit. D (2000IU) because it seemed to decrease urinary output for me. Have you ever heard of this? I am highly sensitive and/or allergic to many substances, so I don’t think I’m your “average” consumer. But I am curious as to whether you have ever heard of this as a side-effect. Thanks for your great “Natural Cures” book! I recommend it to everyone!(Please keep this query anonymous if possible)

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jo August 31, 2010 at 9:42 am

I have vMS, and started taking no less than 6,000 D dailly . . more in the winter when I’m not outside very much. ISince doing this, I have not had a single flaire-up in over a year, compared to two to three a year that required IV steroid treatments. Additionally, I have stopped taking my injections (I do NOT recommend this to anyone unless extreme caution is used) and I am doing so very much better than I ever was while injecting! And no side effects! My daughterin law is taking D with goodresults for her “thyroid problem” and it has helped my grandson with his allergies. Now its not a “cure” for these, but I personally believe it helps strengthen your body so it CAN correct its imbalances/deficiencies

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w August 31, 2010 at 9:46 am

I would like to know why when I take vitamin D regularly I don’t sleep and I’m not talking large doses. Even taking 500, after 2 – 3 days I’m awake early morning 2 – 3 am and can’t go back to sleep, but also if I don’t take any at all I have the same reaction.

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Dr. Jonny August 31, 2010 at 12:55 pm

My guess is that it’s not related to the vitamin D because, as you say, “if I don’t take any at all i have the same reaction”.. Try taking it in the morning. Sleeplessness is not a known side effect of vitamin D- doesn’t mean it’s not possible, just that i’ve never seen, encountered or heard of it. I’m guessing it’s something else..

warmly
jb

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MFB August 31, 2010 at 9:56 am

I have been taking about 8000 to 12,000 IU vitamin D3 daily and my latest blood panel showed a calcium level that was slightly above the normal limits. Afterwards, I started adding vitamin K2 (meq-7) at about 100 micrograms together with vitamin K1 at about 1000 micrograms daily to see whether my blood calcium levels will decrease and hopefully get to my bones more. Any further suggestions?

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Dr. Jonny August 31, 2010 at 12:53 pm

You might try pulling back to say 6000-8000 IUs and see if that makes a difference. Otherwise you seem to be doing the right stuff!

warmly
jb

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MFB August 31, 2010 at 10:02 am

After taking 12.5 mg of elemental iodine and 5 mg of iodide daily from the product called Iodoral, I have been experiencing clinical signs of hypothyroidism. I heard about the Wolf-Chikuff effect with respect to up-regulation of sodium-iodide symporters but I wasn’t sure whether this is going on with me and this is a temporary effect. Do you think I need to take this product still? Any suggestions?

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DK August 31, 2010 at 10:21 am

If you are at 300,000 IU a month, and he is at 60,000,000 IU a month, I believe you are at 1/200, not 1/20 of his dose…..

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Dr. Jonny August 31, 2010 at 12:53 pm

corrected! thank you!

warmly
jb

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Dovetta August 31, 2010 at 12:15 pm

It was discovered that my kidney was getting a bit sluggish and I was
prescribed 1000IU once daily. Hopefully this amount is not toxic.

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William Coon August 31, 2010 at 12:59 pm

My wife and I are taking drops of Hydrogin Peroxide in distilled water fodd grade 35% 3 times per day as recommended in the one minute cure.
Most days we will do all 9 drops in one water.
Is this safe I have heard about cell oxidation is there any damage to cells. This is the maintenance suggested amount. Please advise.

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Dr. Jonny August 31, 2010 at 1:33 pm

hi william

i’m not familiar with the one minute cure, and am not aware of any research on cell damage vis a vis hydrogen peroxide. Sorry I can’t be of more help on this one

warmly
jb

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johnny quick August 31, 2010 at 3:41 pm

I have read that taking 15-20 minutes of sun (I live in Florida) over 90% of your body (in a bathing suit…or less?) will provide all the vitamin D you need.

Is this true?

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Dr. Jonny August 31, 2010 at 3:46 pm

many experts recommend exactly that. But the key here is “all you need”…. the latest research is showing that over 75% of the american population has less than optimal levels. I think it’s a good idea to supplement even if you do get some sun on a regular basis. (I live in southern california and play tennis outdoors every single day and i still supplement.) You can always have a simple blood test (most docs will now give it) for vitamin D levels… the “all you need” level is very different from the optimal level. The experts now recommend your blood level be in the 75-80 range.

warmly
jb

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Brock Spencer August 31, 2010 at 7:57 pm

Dr. Jonny,

Perhaps he’s revised his opinion since, but I read an interview with Dr. Michael Holick not that long ago in which he says that he personally recommends his patients keep their levels between 40 and 60 ng/mL, and that his own levels are between 40 and 50 ng/mL

Based upon your comment about many experts suggesting levels around 75-80 ng/mL, I am guessing you’d consider Dr. Holick’s recommendation to be too conservative?

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Dr. Jonny August 31, 2010 at 8:46 pm

Dr. Holick is a pioneering researcher in this field and I respect anything he has to say. But more recently, the experts I’ve talked to are looking at slightly higher levels than 40-60 as optimal. Sarfraz Zaidi, MD, for example, author of the excellent book “Power of Vitamin D” recommends you keep your levels between 50-100. Mark Houston, MD, likes 80 as a target. I haven’t read anything recently by Holick but i wouldn’t be surprised if he’s modified his recommendations slightly upward.

warmly
jb

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Jake Norman November 30, 2010 at 8:36 am

Dr. jonny,

I was recently forwarded an email from a study that just released saying that levels upwards to 2000 IUs daily isn’t beneficial.

http://www.click2houston.com/health/25955066/detail.html?taf=hou

The above link is an article talking about the study, and some of their findings, but I’m still skeptical of their findings and study methods…

Care to shine any light on this?

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Dave B August 31, 2010 at 8:40 pm

Jonny – thanks for the article! very timely for me.

need some help with blood level units –
I noticed you didn’t mention units for the optimal level of 75 – 80. I also follow Charles Poliquin and he seems to use the units mg/dL with nmol/L interchangeably:

“You should be shooting to get your levels between 80 and 100 ng/mL.”

http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/230/Vitamin_D3_BestSupplementEver.aspx

and

“Your vitamin D levels are 18 nmol/L, I want to bring them to 80 nmol/L.”

http://www.charlespoliquin.com/Blog/tabid/130/EntryId/59/Why-Women-Cant-Lose-Weight-Part-7-Women-and-Vitamin-D.aspx

However, my understanding is the ng/mL = ~ 2.5 nmol/L.

I recently had my Vit D 25-Hyd and was 110 ng/mL. The doctor seemed a little dramatic about getting it down (no toxicity symptoms though).

Any help would be appreciated!
Dave

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Dr. Jonny August 31, 2010 at 8:57 pm

30 ng/ml is about 75 nmol/L. They’re not interchangeable measures. For example, 50 ng/ml (a good “minimum”) translates to 125 nmol/L. An excellent review of scientific studies published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition in 2006 concluded that the most beneficial levels start at 30 ng/ml which translates to 75 nmol/L.

Hope that helps

warmly
jb

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Lewis Goudy August 31, 2010 at 11:06 pm

>our national sun phobia hasn

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Patricia Clapp August 31, 2010 at 11:19 pm

My first test for vitamin d was practically nil I work as a nurse and recieve no sun. I was put on 5,000 units once a week but it did no good and my legs are in constant pain so now I am taking D 6000 to 10,000 a day until the pain is gone. Righy now I am taking 10,000 a day and it Is helping. Will up it if the pain comes back. What is the most I can take with no problems a day?

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Dr. Jonny September 1, 2010 at 8:33 am

I don’t know the extreme top of the range that you can take with no problems, but certainly 10,000 IUs isn’t the top range- that’s the amount i take every day

warmly
jb

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George August 31, 2010 at 11:21 pm

In regard to your statement that you have only heard of one case of a death caused by drinking too much water:
I have read that it a common occurance that inexperienced runners in a marathon race have collapsed from consumming too much water during the race and that occasionallly the runner
could not be revived by the EMTs on site.

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Sheenal September 1, 2010 at 12:45 am

Hi! What’s the best time to take vit d supplements? On an empty stomach? With other foods that increase its efficacy etc etc. Thanks!

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Dr. Jonny September 1, 2010 at 8:32 am

I would take it with food, though it doesn’t really matter. In general I recommend taking vitamins with food since that’s how they originally were provided in the diet, and also because some percentage of the population will have some stomach upset when they take pills on an empty stomach.

warmly
jb

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Guy Jones September 1, 2010 at 9:25 am

As far as my studies into vitamin D are concerned within sensible parameters it is virtually a cure all. Because we in the West are so deficient it makes sense to dose up on it. Then watch as all of your niggles and such disapear…as if by magic. Also death by over consumption of water was a rare but regular feature of the Rave scene in Britain due to the fear of over heating leading to excessive water consumption by party goers.

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Ned September 1, 2010 at 1:04 pm

Dr. Jonny–Another GREAT post! I am a big believer in Vitamin D supplementation. It has been a tremendous help for my mood and overall feeling of well-being. I vary my own dose, based upon what I have read from you and from others, between 5,000 and 10,000 IUs daily. Thank you for jumping in and clarifying this important issue before the media tried to start a panic over it. You are a trusted and valuable resource and an always welcome voice of reason.

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James September 1, 2010 at 6:05 pm

Dr. Bowden,

I have been taking 10,000 IUs daily and I have noticed that shortly after taking the pills I have to urinate frequently and more often than usual. Have you experienced anything like this? Should I stop taking it? Also I have read that a lot of multi-vitamins contain vitamins that are synthetically made and that I should look for a multi-vitamin that contains vitamins from whole foods. Does this apply to Vitamin D as well? I know it is included in most multi-vitamins, but I have just been using the stand alone D3 supplement from “Nature Made” and “Sunvite.” How do I know if these are synthetic or not?

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Dr. Jonny September 1, 2010 at 6:26 pm

how interesting! for the first time ever, just yesterday, I received a letter from a doctor who noticed the same symptom. Yours are the only two cases I’ve ever heard of with an effect on urination, but there it is! Try switching brands… or changing dose. I use the Designs for Health emulsion (on my website) OR the Carlson 2000 IU capsules (also on my website). See if that helps

warmly
jb

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James September 1, 2010 at 7:11 pm

Did the doctor who sent you the letter say what brand he was using? I would be interested in hearing if it was the same as the ones I have used and to compare. I am wondering if maybe there is some kind of reaction we are having with the other ingredients used in the softgels?

Nature Made Brand: Gelatin, Soybean Oil, Glycerin, Water, Corn Oil, Cod Liver Oil.

Sunvite Brand: Soybean Oil, Gelatin, Vegetable Glycerin.

Both products use Vitamin D3 as Cholecalciferol (I am unsure if it comes in other forms. The Carlson brand was one of the first I read about involving Vitamin D supplementing, but I was unable to find it in stores. Time to order it online. Thanks for your help!

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Wayde Curran September 2, 2010 at 5:24 pm

I was wondering on your take on the recent vitamin A vs. vitamin D debate? It seems that vitamin A maybe antagonistic to vitamin D in some respect and supplement makers are lowering the dose of preformed vitamin A in their multivitamins as a result. I would think that good levels of both would provide protection against toxicity of the other? Your take?

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Dr. Jonny September 6, 2010 at 8:14 am

there is some kind of interaction effect- when something contains very very high levels of vitamin A along with some vitamin D (i.e. cod liver oil), the high level of vitamin A seems to wipe out some of the benefits of the D. Exact proportions aren’t known, but probably best to get vitamin D from supplements and foods, and eliminate cod liver oil which has a bad balance.

warmly
jb

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Alice Dartt September 7, 2010 at 11:17 am

When I was a child I had rickets (bowleggedand severe bone pain)
I am now 81 when I was 77 I felt ill no energy and pain in my muscles and legs My vit. D. was 8 the doctor put me on 50,000 units a month for almost a year,the level never got to the low side of normal. I got breast cancer and after I recovered enough to see a endocrinologist he checked my level and it was 5 he put me on 50000 a day for three weeks then decreased it. to 5 times a week it was in the low 90′s and I felt real good. my primary care doctor told me i did not need to see a endocrinologist and he put me on two a week and I feel terriable again no energy back pain and mucscle pain my last level was 64.8 but I had taken extra Vit d that I had bought over the counter and the test was not fasting I had taken 6000 the day they took the test. I have ordered some 5000 units which I plan to take two of these on the days I do not take the 50000 units which will make me be taking the equilivant of 50,000 three times a week. Will that amount make me toxic.
Alice Dartt

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Dr. Jonny September 7, 2010 at 11:24 am

Hi Alice

It seems to me that you should take the amount you feel best on. You sound like a very strong person who has taken control of your health. Congratulations for that

warmly
jb

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Jonny G September 10, 2010 at 12:03 pm

I have been reading an article by Charles Poliquin on vitamin D and he recommends taking large doses (30,000 to 100,000 IU) twice a week rather than daily. What is you view on this sort of dosing?
Jonny G

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Ryan Marshall September 11, 2010 at 9:46 am

If we take a closer look on the basis of this vitamin D toxicity theory, we will see that the evidence is flimsy and observations are misinterpreted and concluded from unusual cases. Earlier, it was recommended by doctors and researchers that to overcome vitamin D deficiency symptoms, 200 to 800 IU per day is enough. But as these researchers and doctors slowly understand the truth about vitamin D therapy, they are realizing that the permissible limit is not enough and the recent studies show the requirement is almost 10 times of the earlier limits. The number of units will even go higher for patients suffering from vitamin D absorption.

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Henry Lahore September 17, 2010 at 6:44 am

There is an overview graph of vitamin D and toxicity at tinyurl.com/toomuchd at the VitaminDWiki which has 2500 articles on vitamin D which includes 30 items just on toxicity and vitamin D

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Jeff Bergman September 28, 2010 at 10:44 pm

I have had problems taking D3. I took 3000 IU and got a headache from it. I took the little oil filled capsules. I remember a few years ago I had the same reaction from a different source of the same D3. I would love to keep taking it because other then the headache I feel a lot less anxious. Any Suggestions?

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George McLaughlin October 8, 2010 at 6:39 pm

Hey Doc. I was wondering if, given recent studies, you’ve considered revising your earlier suggestions on D supplementation.

This article, which appears to be well cited, makes some interesting points about negative side effects of even small doses of D supplementation: http://www.raw-food-health.net/Vitamin-D-Toxicity.html

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M from Finland November 11, 2010 at 7:24 am

Errors with numbers!

“Ultimate Power Meal contained 2,000,000 — that’s two million — IUs per serving, not two thousand. That means in a month, he consumed 60 million IUs — (remember, Null took 200,000 IUs daily for over three months.)”

So, 2,000,000, or 200,000?

“Ultimate Power Meal contained 2,000,000 — that’s two million — IUs per serving, not two thousand. That means in a month, he consumed 60 million IUs; just for the record, — , and one hundred times the amount someone popping a 2,000 IU pill on a daily basis would consume.”

2,000 * 30 * 100 = 6,000,000. Substitute 100 with 1000 and the equation leads to 60,000,000. So one thousand times, not hundred.

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